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FROM THE GUNSAMERICA BLOG AND NEWSLETTER....1/24/2013

Are American Gun Owners a Bunch of Fools?

by Administrator on January 24, 2013

Quick Links:

Find and Contanct your Representative in the US House by Zip Code:
http://www.house.gov/representatives/find/

Contact Your Senators :
http://www.senate.gov/

The American gun owning public is being duped again, just like we were duped the two weeks before the election when we were convinced that Romney was ahead by several percentage points. The media, including our “friends” at Fox, Drudge, and other “conservative” outlets, are attempting to sell us the concept that the “assault weapon ban” legislation can’t pass, and this is a lie. We are told that Bill Clinton sternly warned his party that they will be punished in the mid-terms, and that the NRA is “too powerful” for any real legislation to make it through congress. This is also a lie. Behind our backs, the political machine is crafting public opinion in what have become the majority voting blocks to convince national and state legislators that they are safe for the next election… and they are safe. American gun owners didn’t show up in force for the last election, and we are not feared as a voting block any longer. Don’t be a fool and believe it when they tell us we can’t lose. We are going to get beaten again if we don’t act. And this time it isn’t a slippery slope. This time they are going to outlaw an entire class of guns with no loopholes.

If you are on the GunsAmerica email list, or you are clicking in from the website, you are probably a gun owner of some type (or you are desperately trying to buy your first gun before they ban them), and you may feel that we are “preaching to the choir.” But there is also a 90% chance that YOU HAVE NOT CONTACTED YOUR LEGISLATORS to let them know that you are strongly against any kind of weapon ban, or any increase in our national or state gun laws whatsoever.

You are silent, because you think it is someone else’s job. But it is your job, and you have to make yourself be heard. Call and email your legislators today.

The NRA came into this fight almost a month late and their response has been anything but well received. Even though President Obama’s kids are guarded by armed guards in schools, and even though Dianne Feinstein actually possesses one of San Francisco’s few concealed carry permits, the very sane suggestions of the NRA have fallen on mostly deaf ears. The media , including Fox, has beat up Wayne Lapierre and is inflating every shooting incident in the country right now, trying to keep the gun control energy as high as possible, so that the legislators will have the courage to vote against the wishes of the majority of their constituents. The only way they can do this is their constituents, meaning YOU, remain silent.

You must call and write your legislators today. Let them know that you know who they are. You know their name, and you will remember how they voted come election day. Don’t just use the web form, and don’t just call their Washington, DC numbers. Call their local numbers and tell their staffers that you and ever gun owner you know will be watching them, and funding their opponents if they vote for this ineffective and stupid legislation. At some point you have to take action, and you have to go that extra step, and now is the time.

Most gun owners, like most of America, are ignorant to world history. Most people don’t know that Kristallnacht, the famous “night of broken glass” in Germany in 1939, was actually a gun roundup. It is considered the beginning of the Holocaust, but what most people leave out is that Hitler published sweeping gun confiscation legislation on November 11, 1938, the day after the famous Nazi rioting. You will find the same gun confiscations in the pages of the dictatorial and murderous takeovers of China, Cambodia, Ukraine and throughout history. The first thing every government spinning out of control does is register the guns. Then they round up the guns. Then they declare martial law, putting the military in charge. Do you feel like America has been heading in the right direction? Do you wonder why “prepping” has become more popular than NASCAR? The government knows that America is a powder keg waiting to pop, and they are trying to use a manufactured crisis to take away your guns.

In President Obama’s speech, which took place right in the middle of SHOT Show of course, he played to “law abiding gun owners,” specifically calling out to our petition that we all signed at the beginning of this crisis. The President actually had the nerve to say that this wasn’t about politics and the tactics of a dictatorial regime, despite the fact that rifles, including AR-15 and other magazine fed rifles, are only used in a tiny percentage of gun violence. He even admitted this during the debates. He was appealing to middle class casual gun owners and hunters. They want us to turn on ourselves. They want the old hunting crowd to say “I don’t know why anyone would need a gun like that,” or “why would you need a magazine with more than 7 rounds.” They want the Ipad generation to fall into lockstep with their ideals, and for the old hunting crowd to back them up. We saw it at SHOT Show. Hunters are historically traitors to the 2nd Amendment, and this will be no different.

The people who outvoted us this past November don’t believe in the Constitution. The Ipad generation believes what they see on TV. While all those TV personalities hire armed guards and carry guns themselves to protect their own life and property, they are building public opinion against our 2nd Amendment freedom to keep and bear arms. The Ipad generation doesn’t understand the nature of mankind, and the implicit design of the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights. The Holocaust was 60 years ago, not 600 years ago YOU TOUCHSCREEN ADDICTED IDIOTS. It isn’t the Jews they are going to round up this time (yet). It is freedom loving Americans that are the subversives and the terrorists, and they will need to round us up first. This isn’t about President Obama. It isn’t about what happens next month or next year. The 2nd Amendment must be preserved if our freedom is to be preserved. If we give anything today it will be the next thing we give at the next crisis, then the next thing we give at the next crisis, until we are all defending ourselves with airguns like they do in European Union today. Please contact your legislators today.

{ 141 comments… Some of these comments are really great}
James Dutton January 25, 2013 at 2:47 am

For those of you like me that live in a red state with good senators and reps, contact the president and VP here are the links

http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/su...s-and-comments
http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact-vp
http://www.speaker.gov/contact/

You can also get messages to the other states reps and senators here:
http://www.usa.gov/Contact/Elected.shtml

And start contacting your state officals now, as a second line of defense

Good Luck

. Rick from OBWNON.NET January 25, 2013 at 11:15 am

I’m sure that there are many Democrats who own guns, believe in the
2nd amendment and the Constitution of the United States. However, do these Democrats value their rights deeply enough to stand up to the sometimes fanatical ultra socialist leadership who at times sound like they are south of the old USSR? We (Democrats, Republicans and Libertarians) should be aware that those who want to destroy the 2nd Amendment, will also destroy the First Amendment (and others) at their pleasure to suit their political desires. As an experienced political scientist I concede that both Republicans and Democrats need to be more aware of the needs and opinions of the majority in the middle, rather that to dedicate themselves to the needs of the very rich or very poor. This is why Romney lost and why Obama and Biden are still hated by so many people. They are all FUZZY THINKERS and always seem to take the wrong road to solve problems. Obama has a history of responding to a crisis with insane devisive solutions. Yes, the world has changed, yes violence is worshipped by Hollywood (Django) and violent video games for young children and yes, young people with bi-polar and asbergers autism are virtually ignored and swept aside until they make the news with a mass murder. The answer is not bans and punishment of law abiding gun owners. The answer is tighter mental health checks when young people apply for drivers licenses (no d-license, no guns), perhaps a tax credit for those who buy gun safes. These are proactive steps but what Obama is proposing is negative and divides the country even more. There are many lawful gunowners who will fight to the death if Obamas stormtroopers (military and police) try to enforce these bad laws and many more innocent people will die as a result. If this happens, Obama, Feinstein, Biden etc. will have blood on their hands.


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. j January 25, 2013 at 10:45 am

Who is the moderator of this forum?? You come across as some illiterate redneck who stereotypes the term “Gun Nut”. Your responses to the comments on this forum are childish, inmature, and at times, inflammatory . Please respond with the intelligence and insight and stop calling everyone a “fidiot”.
Signed: Desert Storm Veteran with a PhD

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. Administrator January 25, 2013 at 11:00 am

Actually an orthodox Jew, you fidiot.

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. Keith January 25, 2013 at 11:11 am

No kidding.

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. Mr. Bear January 25, 2013 at 10:51 am

Contacting the president and the vice president will do no good. None. They have a destination in mind, they are walking that path, and they will not deviate. At most, they will pause a moment until the fury dies down, then continue walking.

Even most of the representatives from the “red” states are selling us out – but those spineless bastards, at least, want to keep their jobs. Contacting them might help. Might. Maybe. Perhaps.

The most important thing is to ensure that your family and your friends are on the same page. Make sure they vote when the time comes. Then find people who may not agree, but will listen. Convince them. Make sure they vote.

This has to be fixed from the ground up.

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. Howard L. January 25, 2013 at 10:58 am

As a Virginia resident (long time Republican) with concealled carry permit I agree with most as what has been said. I would also like to know why Feinstein feels the need to tell me what I can do in my State. I don’t live in the state of California and I am not a constituant of her’s. Stop overstepping your bounds. Do what you feel is right for California but leave Virginia and the rest of the Country alone!

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. COMBAT VET January 25, 2013 at 2:58 am

I don’t know why whoever writes these nonsensical, paranoia-filled rants hasn’t been fired yet, but if we actually want to win this fight, we’re going to have to grow up a bit and recognize that there are FAR MORE GUN-OWNING DEMOCRATS, ALL OF WHOM GIVE A DAMN ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION, than many are apparently willing to admit. We don’t all subscribe to conservative ideologies, we are mature enough to passionately disagree with President Obama, and still support him otherwise, etc, etc. So when you, sir, tell me I don’t give a damn about the constitution I swore to uphold when I served in the infantry, you only disgrace yourself, and push those plethora of like-minded supporters away. You state that this isn’t about Obama. Well act like it then. Stop with this “Obama’s kids” argument, as it’s crap. Thus far, the NRA has done more to hurt us than help. I for one have not stopped writing anyone and everyone I can. So when it comes to calling gun owners fools, speak for yourself. And cut the damn right-wing rants if you really want to win this fight. This is about ALL AMERICANS. Not just those who vote republican. Oh, and if you were duped somehow into believing Romney had a chance, you were ignoring facts. Something that has become all too common these days among all Americans.

Yes, as a Jew, the holocaust stands as a great impetus behind my unyielding support of the 2nd Amendment. Yet I’d be a fool to ignore that the same type of fear-mongering that lead to the death of 11 million innocents is right here in this rant above. Stop attacking us, stop calling us fools, stop assuming we’re all so damn far right we’re almost left, and start putting facts and evidence before emotion.

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. Phillip January 25, 2013 at 8:21 am

If, sir, you are indeed a Jew AND a veteran, and you also voted for Obama, then I would contend that it is you who are the fool…….

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. 30 year vet January 25, 2013 at 8:33 am

You apparently drank the Obama koolaid. There is no point arguing with a fool (liberal) vet or no vet, John turncoat Kerry is a vet too

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. Steve Lang January 25, 2013 at 8:42 am

Thank you, combat vet, for saying everything I was about to. the writer for these rants certainly divides the gun owning public more than that unites us. this isn’t about the election this is about events taking place since the election, and trying to draw lines between us and Nazi Germany is getting very tired. please remember that just because we agree on guns doesn’t mean you can tell me, or assume to know, my politics. The last bit about the iPad generation, was especially ignorant. quit while you’re ahead and just encourage me to write my legislators

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. Reluctant Warrior January 25, 2013 at 8:45 am

Sorry, Bro, but you’re wrong. It’s not fear mongering. Look at recent legislation that has passed because too many Americans thought that it wouldn’t, but did nothing to stop it. If you are indeed “awake”, you’d do better to calm the hell down and stop tearing into the writer and try tearing into other gun owners. I have no idea what you’re pissed about and am more inclined to believe you’re a troll than a 2nd Amendment supporter. There are VERY few Democrat supporters of the Constitution, contrary to your understanding. If in fact there where, I’d imagine we’d hear more about it. Maybe you could take some of that “rightous” anger and use it to rally support of these supposed constitutional democrats. T

This fight will be won by fighting, PERIOD. Had fewer illegal immigrants and dead people voted, and more republicans had gotten off their rear ends and voted, Romney might have won.

As a Jew, which I’m suddenly skeptical of now, you would know that it wasn’t fear-mongering on the part of the Jews, but that of the German, and many Europeans in general, that let to those many fearful deaths. You’re blaming the victims for the acts of the criminal. He’s not attacking he’s rallying, and you do sound more like a fool than not. And what are these “facts” that you keep talking about. All he’s presented is fact and warning and the only on that is spewing some terrible amount of emotion is you. All the more reason to believe that you are NOT a gun-owning, 2nd Amendment supporter. If in fact you are what you say, thanks for serving, brother. There are damned few. However, YOU need to wake the hell up and shift fire. Turn about and rounds in the right direction.

The argument about that crap-heads kids is absolutely valid. The guards at the school aren’t just there for his kids, but the others as well. The parents want the guards and they have them. Why don’t we rate the same?

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. Troy January 25, 2013 at 8:50 am

Ease up Obama baby! Perhaps if you yourself were a little less emotional and a tad more rational, you would understand that it is the naivety displayed that history warns us about. Read a couple history books and remove your political persuasion…jeesh! Brotha writin the article is tryin to help you keep your pistol!
Carry on angry Obama baby!

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. BLH557 January 25, 2013 at 9:10 am

Right now it is the Democrats who are falling lockstep, or maybe Goose-Step is a better description, in line with Mr. Obamao who has ALWAYS been anti second amendment. I appreciate your service, but YOU should wake up and see the reality of the fight. Democrats have become fascist. They are using their own political power to take things from people to either give them to others with their own ideology or they are taking them to obtain and concentrate their own political and physical advantage. THAT is the definition of a fascist.

As Thomas Paine said many years ago: “We will either hang together, or we will surely hang separately.”

Although I don’t necessarily agree with the tone of this author’s “rant”, the content is spot on and you, sir, have your head in the wrong place, unless you’re a proctologist. You are drinking the koolaide that will lead us all to tyranny and the thing is, you are such a yellow dog democrat you can’t see the truth for the propaganda.

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. Bruce January 25, 2013 at 9:13 am

I could not agree more with the COMBAT VET the only folks that have anything to lose are those that sell military combat weapons, ammo, optics, magzines, etc to the civilian population. The horror story is that the gun manufacturers, ammo makers and the local gun shops are buying into it. There is no ammo, and where there is ammo the prices have been jacked. Gun prices are going through the roof. Shame on those of you who have perpetuated this ungodly show of greed.

The 2nd ammendment allows us to bear arms and I do not believe that banning AR’s will stop the heinous crimes committed by the criminal and mentally defective, however, I am not so sure the civilian population needs these weapons without closer scrutinty. There needs to be stronger requirements to purchase deadly weapons, to include classes similar to CCW, background checks, fingerprinting, and a waiting period all to be determined by state governments for all permits. I have shared my thoughts with my elected officials.

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. KevinVA January 25, 2013 at 10:22 am

Your 2nd amendment rights were meant to protect you – not only from becoming a victim to an unlawful citizen/non-citizen, but also from the tyranny of government.

Let’s jump ahead to a somewhat ridiculous situation that probably won’t happen, but could: A lot of good that hand gun is going to do you, when you’re staving off a full-frontal attack from your fully automatic rifle-wielding brown coats. Technically, the citizens of this country should be able to match gun for gun, their own with the government’s if they fully intend to strike fear in the government that is supposed to serve them.

“When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.” – Thomas Jefferson (alleged)

“Both oligarch and tyrant mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of arms.” – Aristotle

This is an age-old argument…

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. j January 25, 2013 at 10:35 am

I agree w/ Bruce. I’m really disgusted at those greedy individuals who jacking up the prices of their fire arms and ammo. I believe in capitlaism, and making a buck, but when one doubles or triples a price of a firearm you’re selling, you ARE just plain greedy!!!
Also, to those individuals that are paying those exorborant prices…shame on you, you fools!!!

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. Merle January 25, 2013 at 9:13 am

Well said! So tired of the gun nuts making it hard for gun owners with commen sense. The best thing that could happen to gun owners is for the creation of another gun organization, other than the NRA. An orginization that lets you pay your dues and does not try to shake you down monthly for more money. That does not fight banning cop killer bullets. NRA is full of one issue voters and no voter with commen sense casts their vote determined by one issue.

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. Chris January 25, 2013 at 10:27 am

There are several organizations other than the NRA, such as the NSSF and state rifle associations, such as the Kansas State Rifle Association. Join ones that fits your ideals. The NSSF is a much less political orgainzation that in my opinion does much more good for shooters and hunters as well as helping us meet half way with non-shooters. The NSSF sponsors television programs and ad campaigns to promote the use of modern sporting rifles, otherwise known as military-style-AR-15-style-assault-rifles as viable hunting rifles, which they are. The NSSF works with the BATFE to come up with reasonable measures that are actually reasonable. They were the sponsor of the “Don’t Lie for the Other Guy” campaign, and for the distribution of gun locks through “Project Home Safe”.

Now, for your assertion that the NRA fought for cop killer bullets. There never was such an animal. The bullet that you are thinking of is the Winchester Black Talon, which is just a very good hollow point defensive load created primarily for police, but sold on the civilian market. Neither group would have a need for an armor peircing round, so Winchester did not make one. The anti gun croud, which you are inadvertanly a part of, claimed that the oxide coating would allow the bullet to slide through armor, and that medical staff removing the bullet would cut their hands, and risk infection. This however, is an absolutely unfounded claim as expanding bullets are very bad at going through armor, and the coating, which is still used on other bullets (my .243 deer load, made by Winchester) only prevents copper fouling in the barrel. The claim concerning medical professionals was never brought up with other bulets, and strangely only applied to the Black Talon. Because of the outcry and the support for “resonable laws” from viewers like you, the Black Talon had the black coating removed, and had its name changed to Ranger, which has since been one of the most popular law enforcement rounds available since. Cop killer indeed.

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. Chris January 25, 2013 at 10:28 am

There are several organizations other than the NRA, such as the NSSF and state rifle associations, such as the Kansas State Rifle Association. Join ones that fits your ideals. The NSSF is a much less political orgainzation that in my opinion does much more good for shooters and hunters as well as helping us meet half way with non-shooters. The NSSF sponsors television programs and ad campaigns to promote the use of modern sporting rifles, otherwise known as military-style-AR-15-style-assault-rifles as viable hunting rifles, which they are. The NSSF works with the BATFE to come up with reasonable measures that are actually reasonable. They were the sponsor of the “Don’t Lie for the Other Guy” campaign, and for the distribution of gun locks through “Project Home Safe”.

Now, for your assertion that the NRA fought for cop killer bullets. There never was such an animal. The bullet that you are thinking of is the Winchester Black Talon, which is just a very good hollow point defensive load created primarily for police, but sold on the civilian market. Neither group would have a need for an armor peircing round, so Winchester did not make one. The anti gun croud, which you are inadvertanly a part of, claimed that the oxide coating would allow the bullet to slide through armor, and that medical staff removing the bullet would cut their hands, and risk infection. This however, is an absolutely unfounded claim as expanding bullets are very bad at going through armor, and the coating, which is still used on other bullets (my .243 deer load, made by Winchester) only prevents copper fouling in the barrel. The claim concerning medical professionals was never brought up with other bulets, and strangely only applied to the Black Talon. Because of the outcry and the support for “resonable laws” from viewers like you, the Black Talon had the black coating removed, and had its name changed to Ranger, which has since been one of the most popular law enforcement rounds available. Cop killer indeed.

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. Ross January 25, 2013 at 9:28 am

I’m in the same boat as you, but I try to recognize that there are people out there who would like to see us disarmed. It is a fact that an overwhelming majority of these people belong to the democratic party. Just like it is a fact that most of the knuckleheads who talk about “legitimate rape” belong to the republicans. I back who has my rights under the most immediate attack in mind. Right now that is not the democrats. As much as gun owning democrats don’t like to admit that it is in their party platform to institute more gun control, it’s there. It is their responsibility to reign in those morons who support crap like this, and they fail at every turn, while the rest of us gun owners who just want to be left alone sit in fear while being protected by an increasingly weakening and out of touch republican party.

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. Bob January 25, 2013 at 9:40 am

obama has done nothing but attack the entire constitution and bill of rights from every angle. You may give a D about the 2nd amendment but as an obama supporting demorat, you cannot support the constitution, sir. Conservative means resisting change to the country as founded. obama is the biggest liberal to come down the pike. Many of your first amendment rights have already slipped away and you supported that, apparently. If you can stop running your mouth long enough, you might re-read the article and find that many of your rants are misplaced by reading out of context. A little more intelligence and a little less big mouth, perhaps.

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. Richard Rautio January 25, 2013 at 9:48 am

Combat Vet,
Yes, you state my thoughts exactly, except I’m not a Jew. Close enough. And I’m a vet too. I supported Obama for economic and other reasons and feel he needs to know that MOST of us Dem’s are gun owners or supportive of same. Almost everyone I talk to, friend, family, acquaintance or customer agree that there should be no ban, just better law enforcement, mental health care and perhaps background checks at gun shows. I go to them on occasion and see no reason why they can’t check on people and record sales in some regulated format that we can all agree on, same as when buy in a shop.

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. KevinVA January 25, 2013 at 9:59 am

PHFT….

Any self-respecting combat vet or American would have seen the truth over the past 5yrs. The man you’ve presumably voted for (twice) is an anti-military, anti-American, anti-Constitutional enemy of the state.

In addition to this, talking to your Congressional representatives is a waste of time. We now live in an Oligarchy. The government doesn’t serve us – we serve the government. The majority of those in the House & Senate are teeming with legislative power and money. It’s gotten to their head and they serve only their selves. Don’t let the facade of an election process fool you. If it worked, all of the reported election fraud would have been investigated and this joke of a man “leading” our country never would have seen a 2nd term.

Like Russia, your rights are now a figment of your imagination. Go ahead, say something provocative in the public light to test your right to speech. Go ahead and try praying or talking about a Christian God in school. Go ahead and try to practice your states rights…

The progressive (Socialist) movement is in full swing and we’re too cowardly to do what’s necessary.

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. MadMaxx January 25, 2013 at 10:03 am

I agree we need to work together on this and allow some legislation to pass. Just keep in mind brother, many of those Democrats have the uncanny ability to speak of legislation that doesn’t invlove them…kind of a “do as I say not say as I do” attitude. Feinstein, for example, is just one of many that used to carry…now she has body guards to keep her safe while she fights for an assault weapons ban that involves less than 2% of all gun crimes. It’s a big knee jerk reaction that is leading to this mess and mostly on the behalf of US liberals in government. And looking at the stats, you are right… there are a boat load of Democrats that won guns…we just don’t hear about any of them in politics. They’re too busy supporting the “cause” knowing they’ll be able to keep their guns because of their position in society.

As a 19 year vet with a combat tour in Fallujah 2004-2005 and a certified weapons instructor, I do believe in a certain amount of gun control. Not everyone should be allowed to have a gun and everyone should have to be certified via a nice little one day course given by their state game commission. Unfortunately too many people fight every little bit of legislation, that none of the good ones get passed either…like thorough background checks, reporting a stolen gun or gun tracking through sales. Even estate weapons should have to be transferred via FFL to another person.

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. Administrator January 25, 2013 at 10:08 am

fidiot you have been following too many orders. Don’t worry they will be calling you back up to fire on American citizens soon. You’re a true patriot.

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. DaveS January 25, 2013 at 11:01 am

MadMaxx,
You can not possibly be who you say you are. You, sir, or ma’am, are what we refer to as a Troll. You start by attacking liberals, then give your “qualifications,” as if that means something on the interweb, and finish by promoting the liberal’s agenda of gun registration schemes.

“…reporting a stolen gun or gun tracking through sales. Even estate weapons should have to be transferred via FFL to another person.”

Please explain how your government plan to keep a record of what I own is going to keep a criminal from obtaining a weapon.

First comes REGISTRATION, then comes CONFISCATION.
History repeats.

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. OllieK January 25, 2013 at 10:37 am

LEFTIST TROLL ALERT. This poster is no combat vet. He’s just an Obama loving troll.

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. Administrator January 25, 2013 at 11:01 am

Yeah, we got that. Most of them get deleted but you have to let a few through so people see the traitorous stupidity we are up against.

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. Administrator January 25, 2013 at 10:57 am

Another Sonderkommando here. Those were the Jews who agreed to sell out their people to administrate the gas chambers and the big ovens. Yea, they were eventually mostly killed as well. They aren’t going to round up the Jews first this time. We have too many defenders here, called FREEDOM LOVING AMERICANS, and they will have to be rounded up as “terrorists” first. Then they’ll come after the Jews. Will you be a “democrat” or a “liberal” then? Will it matter what you believe or who you supported, because you didn’t do your homework when it mattered? If you are a democrat you support the teachers unions, gun control in the inner cities, and of course, Planned Parenthood in every inner city black neighborhood, but oh yea, you support the Sonderkommando black president who sells out his own people and keeps them as victims. Are you waiting for superman yet? We are, and so are all of those racial minority Americans living in our inner cities in fear, disarmed, with no prosperity or opportunity. Too bad a bunch of white kids got killed. Now we have to do something!! You are just another racist traitor to the freedom of all Americans, with a gun, today anyway.

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. George January 25, 2013 at 11:04 am

Well said, couldn’t agree more

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. Neil January 25, 2013 at 3:19 am

I agree that the media is in lockstep and that they have a carefully crafted strategy to make us complacent. But there is a reason the media all agrees on this, and it is YOU who is the idiot if you fall for the JPFO “damage control” propaganda lie that Hitler disarmed the German people. The reality is that he did nothing of the sort but rather he eased firearms restrictions. Look at the principal people behind all of this! Look at the most powerful groups pushing it! Look at the ownership of the media outlets pushing it! How about you use YOUR brain?

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. David January 25, 2013 at 4:06 am

Your absolutely correct, most gun owners will not contact the legislators because they all think someone else (The NRA) will do it, or they believe that it won’t make a difference! Well that’s is exactly how we will lose the 2nd amendment rights, because most Americans are to stupid, to lazy, or to ignorant to get off their asses, to the right thing!
I guess some 70 something year old former KGB agent is laughing right now of the dummying down of the American capitalist… Now who really won the Cold War comrades…

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. James Burns January 25, 2013 at 4:33 am

We the People, Has had a strange ring to it for sometime, We have lost our rights sense the George Bush, nobody has paid attention!!!, The Day After 911 they (The Bulderburgs) Have met with every Presidental canditate
and Both Bushes met them, including Hilary Clinton and Obama, But back to loss of Rights 911 The Pat. Act, we have lost Constitutional rights, they (The Goverment) have pushed us in a deep hole, and have prepaired for this manditory gun register, then ammo control clip control then gun round up, this has been their plan All Along you
better Wake Up My Fellow Gun Owners or it will be Too Late!!!… We must not let the paint anyone as a nut because they will try ,Why they have people to monotor our and ever web site print bad and misleading facts so
we stay asleep,then report us, and If you think there isn’t a list then you are already lost, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS TO PAY ATTENTION!!!!! Call All your Friends to Arms Call your LEGISLATORS NOW!!!!, Befor It’s Too Late
A CALL TODAY KEEPS YOUR GUNS IN THE HOME NOT WITH A GOVERMENT TAKE OVER, They Will Try US…..

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. Steve Weed January 25, 2013 at 4:40 am

I am an ipad addicted “idiot”. I have contacted my gov. Officials numerous times (on my ipad) about this b.s. of trying to chip away at our 2nd amendment. I don’t appreciate you calling me names. This ipad has been a great tool for me to shop for guns, learn about guns and the crap the gov. Is trying to do (its way eisier to weed through the b.s. and lies than watching t.v.!) and even contact government officials (p.s.it is a lot more effective than licking envelopes and looking up addresses!) . Maybe your bias toward touch screens has to do with your age or the pop culture your kids tend to use them for but to me, if the envelope and pen is a musket, my ipad is a firkin “assault” weapon.
Have a nice day.

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. Art Edwards January 25, 2013 at 8:37 am

I agree 100% with Mr. Weed.

This name calling has to stop.

I believe that it would be extremely beneficial to have a majority of Americans in support of our Second Amendment rights. It seems unwise to alienate the youth of America by calling them names, as in “touchscreen addicted idiots.”

You are also demeaning older voters, by saying that the “old hunting crowd” are “historically traitors.”

Rather than alienating huge blocs of voters by calling them names, would it not be smarter, and more effective to attempt to win their approval?

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. Administrator January 25, 2013 at 9:43 am

another fidiot traitor

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. Chris January 25, 2013 at 10:43 am

I agree that any further dividing of our bloc is a very bad thing, and you’d be wise for both political and business reasons not to do it. Try saying things like, “while you may use ol’ trusty bolt action, your grandson would love a Remington R-25 for his first deer season!” Also, the ipad generation really was partially responsible for the huge AR-15 sales numbers. It is no coincidence that the Modern Warfare games, and our very real war, featuring all types of awesome special forces/secret squirel types coincided with that boom in AR sales. Try bringing them in deeper, rather than showing them that this shooting thing isn’t what they thought that it would be.

That being said, right after the tragedy several “gun rights” republican reps sided with the anti gun crowd saying that they didn’t know anybody that would hunt with an AR. Well, I’m sure that’s true, but unless you were hiding under a rock for the last 40 years, you should know that there are plenty of people out there that do hunt with ARs, and way more that use them for sport or defense. What’s more, is that you should know that it doesn’t matter if they are hunting rifles or not. We have it in our national identity to own firearms and bear responsibility for our own well being.

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. Wade January 25, 2013 at 9:20 am

Those of you who are offended by the “iPad idiot” comment in the above narrative are missing the point of the use of that term. The term was used to describe those millions of Americans who generally live their lives on and though electronic devices, who generally accept everything they read on the internet, and who lack virtually any intellectual and historical curiosity (and thus any perspective) about the dangers we face in these dangerous times. (I refer you to the Honey Boo Boo, Kardashian pop culture we live in). We all know people like that – and it is certainly more common among the poorly educated younger generation. He was not denegrating everyone who uses an iPad, touchscreen or computer simply because they use those devices.

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. Chris Foltz January 25, 2013 at 10:02 am

True That!!! DNC commie-techies creamed the repubes in getting their Anointed 1 elected…still wondering why here in Maryland the Conservative’s aren’t challenging the Martin O’Malley’s New Americans(illegal aliens) voting here…election was rigged…

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. john hutchison January 25, 2013 at 4:48 am

hi fight back or lose it support gun rights more then ever iam fighting lookhttp://www.youtube.com/user/johnkhutchison1?feature=mhee

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. Ironcutter January 25, 2013 at 7:42 am

I agree with everything you wrote in your article. And since I read this on my iPad, my only comment/criticism is that your derogatory toward tablet users is unfortunate. You obviously put a lot of thought into your writing, but follow your own advice and be inclusive, not divisive. You were 100 percent correct, people are uninformed, so inform them, don’t insult them.

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. Phillip January 25, 2013 at 8:27 am

It was a metaphor. That you take offense because you own an iPad, demonstrates the validity of his point. I own an iPad as well, but took no offense.

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. Don Linker January 25, 2013 at 5:54 am

Legislators

The heat is on and the Constitution is under attack, we as Americans should stand up and let the politicians know that the rights we cherish, the rights that so many Americans have given their lives defending, should be defended by our “elected” officials. The same rights that the President recently took an oath on the bible to uphold the Constitution of the United States of America. I am an American and along with countless other Americans, we Vote!!!!!!!!!!

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. Chris Foltz January 25, 2013 at 10:08 am

Communist here in Maryland are right now crushing the constitution & a billion phone calls won’t make a difference here… O’Malley & his followers in Annapolis are all TRAITORS!!!

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. Kurt L January 25, 2013 at 6:06 am

I wrote to my governor, senetors, representatives, mayor, etc…and got a BS form letter reply obviously written by one of their lackies. In the replies from them, everything pointed to the same outcome…they all support the assault weapons and mag ban. It is a crime that some time ago, they forgot that they are OUR employees, not our masters whom we have to accept and bow to. It seems that freedom is slipping away in our country, and yes, it is OUR country…not theirs to control as they desire. Please, everyone, keep writting so that they will realize that they will, at minimum, be committing political suicide. Maybe self preservation will motivate them even though they should know that they should stand up for what is right, not what is made popular by the strategic media. I wrote them back asking for a real response but received nothing in return.

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. Chris Foltz January 25, 2013 at 10:13 am

I have NO REPRESENTATIVE here in Maryland…& I’m about as pissed as an AMERICAN can get!

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. Maria Stahl January 25, 2013 at 6:11 am

(I read this on my iPad and am typing this on a touchscreen.)

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. Rich Heipp January 25, 2013 at 8:31 am

Your comment is the reason this country is in deep water

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. Kenneth Pinion January 25, 2013 at 6:14 am

Why haven’t we heard from the gun manufactors on this issue? I haven’t heard or read anything on th internet about the osition of Kimber, Brown or Wilson, what I do see all of them are offering what amounts to a “Fire Sale
” With the price gouging and shortages you would thing they would publicly make a written stand?

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. rsun January 25, 2013 at 6:17 am

already sent my 2 senators and my rep a letter, tried calling but failed, will have to keep calling them back till they pick up, i guess! Only one country with the second, get ready to defend it or you will lose it, don’t wait for the other guy to carry your responsibility for you , please everyone do it now

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. kyle January 25, 2013 at 6:20 am

This is somewhat a form of spiritual warfare. Our guns represent our freedom in America…

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. Pablo January 25, 2013 at 6:21 am

You took the words out my mouth (so to speak). I heard the Clinton “warning” and knew it to be a rouse. Or to use the arfcom speak “It’s a tarp”. We should not even be considering backing off – yet some people are! Keep writing, keep donating, keep joining and most importantly talk to casual hunters and firearm owners and let them know. Our 2nd Amendment must be preserved and is REALLY being attacked, if you doubt this go to POPVOX and just see how much anti-gun legislation has been introduced in the last couple weeks.

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. robert burton January 25, 2013 at 6:28 am

i votee against barry seotoro (barak his legal name) and signed several petitions so why dont the rest of you guys get up n do your job

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. bernard lovette January 25, 2013 at 6:35 am

late night 2 guy breaks in apt above the one i live in woke up from noise went outside to see what noise was criminal carrying gun walks up and holds me against my will i had no gun and no means to defend myself . i learned 2 things after this happened 1 how to shoot and when to have my gun .gun control is criminal because it takes away your ability to stop bad guy when there are no police around to do it . bad guy almost always have unregistered firearms and lawbiding citizens guns are registered when buy then because of a background check. bad guys use stolen guns .

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. Randy January 25, 2013 at 6:48 am

I have been sending emails to them Every week, at least. I will also call. I’ve been getting all of my family, friends, and neighbors to do the same. I don’t know how many people are emailing and calling, but I know it is a lot. It could be a lot more though. If you own a firearm of ANY KIND, you need to be involved. They will come after yours next.

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. doug January 25, 2013 at 7:02 am

odumbofurher is counting on the UN’s small arms treaty to tke our guns away. This gun control nonsense is a smoke screen. When you call/e-mail your legislators tell them to vote against the law of the sea and the UN small arms treaty. Get the USA out of the UN and the UN out of the USA. I’m sure we can find a better use for the UN headquarters building in New York city.

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. David Steen January 25, 2013 at 9:16 am

I agree,wouldn’t the UN building be a great place to house our HOMELESS VETERANS,instead of it being COMMIE CENTRAL ?!!

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. Bruce Pyatt January 25, 2013 at 7:08 am

I agree it is time to write, call or email your legislators before the bill is presented.
You don’t even have to leave your chair to email them.

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. John January 25, 2013 at 7:08 am

This is a response from what appears to be a supportive Candice Miller from Michigan:

Dear Mr. —–

Thank you for contacting me regarding President Obama’s recent proposals to address gun violence. I appreciate your opinion and welcome the opportunity to respond.

The murder of innocent children in Newtown, Connecticut was a heinous act that demands action to better protect our children. It is unfortunate that the Obama Administration is focusing far too much on the method used instead of the root cause of why it happened. The vast majority of firearm owners in America are law abiding citizens simply exercising the right of self-defense for themselves and their families guaranteed by the Second Amendment of our Constitution.

Criminals, by their very definition, do not care what the law states, so the only people impacted by stricter gun laws are those who seek to obey the law, not violent criminals. The fact of the matter is that there are already numerous laws in this nation protecting against the unlawful use of firearms that are simply not enforced. If the Obama Administration and states across the country want to reduce the criminal use of firearms it is time to start prosecuting those violations to the full extent of the law and take the guns out of the hands of criminals by putting them behind bars.

And if we truly want to stop instances like Newtown, we must look into all of the issues that may have contributed to the problem and can serve as real solutions to future violence. We must address the issue of an inadequate mental health system in this country that has failed to identify those who may commit these types of heinous acts before they happen and treat them effectively. The President has suggested some small steps in this direction; however more has to be done. We need to also attend to the issue of violent video games and movies that desensitize our children toward violence and death. Nothing we do will stop those disposed to violence if we do not attack the root causes of these tragedies.

The Obama Administration’s proposal is largely focused on diminishing the Second Amendment rights of law abiding owners of firearms with new laws which the President himself has stated would have done nothing to stop the attack on Newtown. I cannot support that effort. It is disappointing that President Obama’s political supporters in Hollywood who peddle violence and death to our children through violent video games and movies have been given a pass in this process. It is also disappointing that the President has not put forward a plan to take decisive action in improving a mental health system that has allowed these types of potential killers to fall through the cracks, only to allow them to carry out violent attacks. On one hand, this proposal is an overreach of executive authority and on the other, it is inadequate in addressing the root cause of the attacks.

I look forward to working with my colleagues in the House on legislation that is designed to truly protect our children without diminishing the constitutional right of law abiding citizens.

Again, thank you for your correspondence. If you have any further questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact my office. If you would like to stay up to date on issues in Congress and how they affect you, please sign up to receive my e-newsletter, The Washington Connection, at candicemiller.house.gov. It has all of the information you need about current events in our nation’s capital and their impact on Michigan’s 10th Congressional District.

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. John Huff January 25, 2013 at 7:24 am

The gun owner has been duped for years. Bill Clinton and Hillery were the worst. I remember Hillery stating that they would disarm this country before they got out of office, and almost did. Now we have this mess. I find it hard to understand when parents are not allowed to discipline there children, and yet we are suppose to teach them responsibility.I raised my children around guns, I thought them to respect a firearm and how to use one properly.I wounder what doctor Spock would say about his ideas about child raising now.
John Huff

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. John Johnson January 25, 2013 at 7:33 am

There is only one form of communication that can make a difference. It’s not ranting to friends and neighbors, or posting on Facebook or YouTube – it’s e-mailing or writing your Senators and Representative. Keep it very short, courteous and firm. Don’t threaten them. Just e-mail them “As a voter, I strongly oppose any additional restrictions on my constitutional right to purchase and possess currently legal firearms, and ask that you vote against any such proposed legislation.” If you’re smart enough to access and read this Guns America site, you’re smart enough to find out the e-mail address of your legislators and send this note. If you don’t communicate with them, you have no right to bitch about the results.

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. Kevin Hernan January 25, 2013 at 7:33 am

This is not only about gun control, this is about absolute control ultimately. When you ask America this question ‘Who is George Soros”? Most people, especially liberal Democrats will tell you they don’t know. This is simply because they don’t pay enough attention. When Glenn Beck tried to educate America on Soros, they removed his show from TV. Now he is on the Blaze. The truth is Soros and Obama agenda is to change the face and freedoms of America and they are plotting to remove all weapons from us. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QkNg7AYvaM&sns=em , Obama wants to bring America down as the superpower we are and equal with the rest of the world. Obama wants to be the Tzar and Soros as well. Youtube Sosos- Obama’s boss and hear his speak.
Like Charleston Heston, they will have to remove my guns from my cold dead hands.’

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. Chris January 25, 2013 at 7:35 am

I feel the NRA needs to lay out the truth in a well planned strategy about what the government is actually planning, That would entail doing exactly what the opposition is doing (press conferences, mass emails, ect) Turn the tables on the lies being told and expose the liars for who and what they are…….IF it’s worth fighting for then it has to be done down and dirty and take the gloves off……….NO MORE MR & MRS NICE GUY

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. Greg January 25, 2013 at 7:41 am

I just left the following comments for my legislators…
I am totally against ANY restraints on the 2nd amendment and gun ownership. The 2nd amendment was not established for “hunting”. It was established to ensure that the population of a free society had the means to ensure that freedom from an oppressive government. Please understand that whenever you vote on anything related to this topic. Nobody wants to overthrow the US Government, but nobody wants to be walked over by this same government as well. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT!!!

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. Ironcutter January 25, 2013 at 7:44 am

Sorry, meant to add comment, not reply. Stupid iPad!

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. Wil Ferch January 25, 2013 at 7:47 am

Correct and agree. I have formulated my own, self-written response and have sent that to the White House, State governor, my representatives, radio stations, newspaper outlets, my local gun clubs, friends and colleagues. I encourage everyone who reads this to do the same.

The aspect and topic of “need” came up in this article. Apparently some people are saying “I don’t see the need to have this style of gun or this capacity of magazines”. This “need-test” and questioning is improper and needs to stop. To compare, ….who “needs” a 500 HP car that can go 200 mph for travel in the United States? Maybe I personally don’t see the “need” for someone to have such a car, but I will not and cannot begrudge those that do. There are countless cars that have this characteristic and are legally available for sale in the US. As long as the car is legal for sale in the US, it should be viewed as OK…and the same with Military Style ( let’s coin our own words…not “Assault Rifle”) weapons.

Going further, a grandmother asks her grandson why he skateboards in the city. She might say she sees no “need” for him to do that, and that it is dangerous. He also says to her, he sees her knitting with knitting needles, and sees no “need” for her to make clothes when they are so cheap to buy,… and by the way, those needles look dangerous. It is always very easy to say SOMEONE ELSE doesn’t need something when it does not fit YOUR OWN sensibilities. A dangerous path to take with discussions.

Let your voice be heard and contact all your legislators and representatives on these gun-ownership rights issues !!

Ban the “need-test” in these discussions…it has no place here!

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. David Steen January 25, 2013 at 9:23 am

Very well said. But I fear that we have already become unaware Serfs,as our “Representatives” rule over thier tiny kingdoms. Look how many get elected and become Lifers, Ted Kennedy for example.

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. Frank Brodeur January 25, 2013 at 7:47 am

I have been in contact with both the Presidents office, the vic3e president, my state and federal legislators, and have voiced strong opposition to these new turn of events. The vice president and the president both sent replies which acted like I was supporting there agenda when that was far from the truth. Its like they never read it, and just had a one sided email response for everyone, no matter what your views were. I argued that the mentally disturbed are where the real issues are. On Facebook I explained my views, and one of my first responses was from a mother who had a son who had mental problems and she had attempted on more than one occasion to get them addressed with the same results each time. The mental hospital would hold her son for 4 days attempting to address the problem through counselling and medication, but in each case after 4 days the insurance refused to pay any more benefits and her son was booted out of the hospital. I explained this in the letters to each of the people who were elected to protect out constitutional rights, and the only one who responded like he was actually reading my email was my state district representative. Mr Luekemeyer, of Missouri, sent me a letter explaining his battle to protect my gun rights and the 2nd amendment, admitted to being and supporting his membership in the NRA, and upon reading his response, I felt he had addressed every concern I raised, even the mental health issues. I am still considering framing that response as he not only emailed me a response, he actually mailed the response with his letterhead snail mail. I can only hope he will run for a post in the federal government next term, as I would vote for him in a minute.

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. Josh January 25, 2013 at 7:49 am

The same thing happened the last time he got elected. We had the SAME ammo shortage and the SAME gun rush. Has it ever occurred this whole gun ban is a diversion tactic to draw your attention away from something else. That’s right conspiracy theory…

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. matt January 25, 2013 at 7:53 am

It looks like we might be idiots for more reasons than one…. Looking at things like SHOT, it amazes me that we’re pointing the finger at clear opposition. Those people have an opinion and it is clear even if it doesn’t make sense. The people running SHOT and most gun shows around America, along with WalMart, Dick’s Sporting Goods, and others are pretending to be pro-2A, and are not. They’re wolves in sheep’s clothing. Claiming to be Pro-2A and not allowing people to carry a LICENSED and PERMITTED gun on premises is nonsense. So is deciding to carry “Sporting firearms” and choosing NOT to carry “Real” guns. Telling customers that it’s against the law to sell ammunition after 9pm is not a good way to show your 2A support, general support for freedom, or to show your decency. A liar is a liar regardless of their motive. It looks to me like we’re being lied to by “Our own” now, too.

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. Kevin January 25, 2013 at 10:19 am

WalMart, Dicks, Gander, to name a few, have pulled magazines that hold more than 10 rounds and military style weapons off their shelves.
Cabelas recently boycotted the Eastern Sportsman Show in Pennsylvania, because the venue banned the sale and display of these politically incorrect items. Shortly after Cabelas made their announcement around 300 vendors followed suit. They had to cancel the show and are reconsidering their stategy.
Rock on Cabelas!

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. Administrator January 25, 2013 at 10:20 am

The show was cancelled because NSSF stood up against Reed, who manages both that show and SHOT Show. Kudos to NSSF as well.

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. ray January 25, 2013 at 7:55 am

This is all true. People said in 1994 that a ban could not happen and you see what actually did happen. But lucky that one had a expiration date…. this new proposed ban DOES NOT! Contact your congressman and let them know you awont stand for your 2nd amendment right to be trampled. If this does pass (god fordib) it only will be the beginning. (Just look at australia ) everyone needs to fight (legislatively) to stomp this out and send a strong message that our right will not be infringed. If you don’t welcome to 1994 all over again, but if we stand together as one voice we can defeat this radical administration, together we stand, devided we fall, and if we fall what will come after wont be good. Everyone stand up and say no to this new gin ban! Don’t just sit there and let other speak up for you, it wont be loud enough.

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. mike marriam January 25, 2013 at 7:56 am

This is going to be a battle but I believe we can win it. Unjust laws have been passed before and overturned. People forget that Kennedy was killed with a bolt action rifle. Eventually someone is going to go on a rampage with an 870 or 700 and the class of assault rifles will grow and calls to outlaw sniper rifles will be made. Than the low speed high drag crowd will recognize the error of their ways and the pendulum will swing back the other way. At least that is how I hope it goes. If the try to confiscate guns I’m afraid it will go the other way fast.

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. karl January 25, 2013 at 8:01 am

thank you i don,t know whats wrong with everyone

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. Amanda January 25, 2013 at 8:02 am

Here is a copy of the letter I’ve been sending out to my senators and reps. If you and to copy and paste- feel free, just add your own name at the bottom and write in your senators/ reps name on top. We need to bombard them from every state against this legislation!!! We can lay down and assume it will go our way!!!

Senator ,

The Second Amendment is in place for us as law abiding American Citizens to be able to defend ourselves against a rogue government! That was its intention – to protect us if the government wants to force a takeover. Unfortunately, scare tactics from a tradgedy are always used by governments to take over control of the people they govern. This knee jerk legislation by Feinstein is no different!! And is again a tactic to begin to remove all of our rights under the constitution!
This card has been played many times. Tragedy=control of ‘people’ with new law “for their protection”.

Petitions against more gun control to the Whitehouse were shut down by the very government who is “asking for input”, because they were getting too much support. Standing up for our rights and freedoms by whatever peaceful means necessary has been and is our First Amendment right, Freedom of Speech.
I am personally against any of this legislation about gun control and I stand with ALL those who do so as well. Any of these laws will only make it easier for a government takeover, period. They won’t help protect any children or anyone from gun wielding maniacs who don’t buy their weapons legally anyways!! Guns and ammunition magazines don’t kill people! NONE of these laws will effect criminals! That’s why they are called criminals- they don’t follow laws anyways!!
These proposed laws ONLY tie the hands of law abiding citizens, of those who might otherwise be able to protect themselves and their families.
I think every tragedy is horrible, especially when involving innocent children, don’t get me wrong-I am a mother and would be worse than devastated! But legislating LAW ABIDING CITIZENS out of their right to buy and own what they want for their own protection is VERY WRONG!!! Children safety at this point is only a sales pitch to get the heart strings involved and encourage as many as possible to agree and go along with handing over their Rights willingly!
Again it’s a perfect example of big government using a tragic situation to take more control of the everyday Joe/Jane and being one step closer to dissolving the constitution.

> DO NOT ALLOW THIS LEGISLATION TO PASS!!!

> IT IS CRUCIAL THAT YOU VOTE AGAINST ANY GUN CONTROL LEGISLATION!!!

> IT IS CRUCIAL THAT YOU ENCOURAGE ALL OTHERS THAT YOU CAN, IN YOUR TRUSTED SEATS WITHIN THE GOVERNMENT, TO DO THE SAME!!!!!

Thank you for your attention and support of your constituents Constitutional Rights as Americans!

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. Amanda January 25, 2013 at 8:05 am

***if you want to you can copy and paste this letter…
***We can NOT LAY DOWN and assume it won’t pass!!!!
Sorry for the typos-spell correct is a damned thing sometimes!!!

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. AAFoster January 25, 2013 at 8:06 am

I did….contact your legislative reps and let them know your thoughts…be civil, short, to the point……let’s keep America and NOT become the New Soviet RepubliK of AmeriKa!

Let them know…. we do have a Constitution AND THEY ARE BOUND BY OATH to UPHOLD it!!!!!!!!!!!!

By the people For the people, Of the people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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. steve January 25, 2013 at 8:06 am

I beileve that kids should be tought how to use weapons ,why they should respect them ,and when to to use them .as growing up we were tought that guns are not toys not to be played with as toys .That is the same thing that I teach to my two daughters ages ten and fourteen. I beileve that if more kids were taught this that the shootings would end.

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. Alan January 25, 2013 at 10:46 am

Steve you are correct,The root of this is lack of respect and proper training.Young people who are around guns and those who aren’t need some training on safety and the cosequenses of misuse of firearms.Very important and very few are stressing this as part of the solution.NOT part of the solution is attacking law abiding citizens rights in any way!

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. Mike S. January 25, 2013 at 8:12 am

Our friends at Fox News didn’t lie to us. They simply reported what the pollsters were saying. The pollsters were saying that the race was too close to call or giving Obama a slight edge. Three million republicans didn’t turn out. That’s why we lost the election. If the gun owners don’t turn out we will lose our guns.

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. Administrator January 25, 2013 at 9:41 am

Bullshit they were all snickering on election night, including Rove.

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. Carey January 25, 2013 at 8:12 am

Your editorial hit the nail on the head! Even though all of my supposed elected officials are Dems and in lock step with the Liar-in-Chief, I’ve still written them, emailed and called the dim-wits.

My state legislators are more inclined to listen and I’ve written, emailed and called them too.

Oh, I live in Massachusetts does that tell you something?

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. peter hernandez January 25, 2013 at 8:18 am

I remember Fidel Castro’s slogan right after taking power in Cuba; “Arms for what” we are here to protect you, you don’t need arms !! Shortly after came a voluntary arms turn in, and like lambs to the slaughter people turned in all kinds of guns, and those not willing to turn their’s in were arrested and their guns confiscated anyway. I do believe history repeats itself and in my opinion it is starting here now…..

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. Rich Heipp January 25, 2013 at 8:24 am

The real blame here is the education system (or lack of) the press and the bought and PAID for judicial system. The only thing the Country really cares about any more is the cash n their pocket and the right not to work and entitlement.

The grand fix is in and we are to late, Big brother has shut us down, we can no longer assemble speak freely or defend our homes and families without the threat of arrest. The drug culture in society and television (tell a lie) are to blame for the dumbing down and pacification of the general populous since the 1950s and continues on today. Without a earnest effort at real education people are mere drones being told what to do and when to do it. Our own money has also been the down fall of our country via greedy business men who can never get enough much like crack heads. They have sold off this country piece by piece to foreign interests and now that we are but an empty shell buried in debt we have turned to steeling from the others around us and selling them short for that capital fix.

I see uncontrolled inflation, out of control spending and a lot of stupid people walking the streets. One only needs to watch any late night program as proof or any of the morning net work shows. The scales of justice in this country are in need of re-calibration so they can be zeroed out again. The Government is to big and out of control from the Feds to the local levels. We need not a tea party that was done over 200 years ago and freed us from over taxation but know we are right back where we started, we again are being over taxed and it is the direct fault of the American people for not staying on top of the government we put in place. WE NOW NEED TO BOYCOTT our own government and pull the rug out from under its feet. We need to shut down the supply chain to Washington and the local governing bodies until reform,. spending, over taxation and equality is met and lets not forget having our right fully restored. If they want to send in the storm troopers (Bullies) it is time to fight.

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. Heinlen January 25, 2013 at 8:25 am

Here’s the letter I received from Senator Sherrod Brown of Ohio.
Dear Mr. Heinlen:

Thank you for expressing your views about firearms legislation.

As a United States Senator, I took an oath to defend the Constitution. The Second Amendment makes clear that Americans have the right to own guns, and the Supreme Court over time has given meaning to this right.

When our children and families are no longer safe at our schools, in our malls, and in our movie theaters, then we as a country must take action. The shocking numbers of public shootings throughout the country last year, culminating in Newtown, Connecticut, demands that we engage in a serious national discussion about gun violence, not just in terms of weapons and bullets, but also including mental health access, public safety officers, and our responsibility both as individuals and a society.

Like all rights, it must be balanced against others. I have supported restrictions on the possession of assault-style weapons so our public safety officers are not put at increased risk, and restrictions on the ability of criminals to possess handguns but I fully support the right of Ohioans to own firearms.

Should the Senate consider this issue in the future, I will support common-sense reforms that protect both public safety and the rights of gun owners. Thank you again for contacting me.

Sincerely,

Sherrod Brown
United States Senator

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. Jim L January 25, 2013 at 8:39 am

@Neil,
Hitler disarmed Jews. German citizens were allowed to be armed, but Jews were not considered citizens. They were, however, German Jews and hence German.

@Combat vet,
Please tell your party members to wake up. They won’t listen to us because we’re “evil”. Perhaps they will listen to someone among their own ranks.

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. peter hernandez January 25, 2013 at 8:40 am

Please forgive me if I sound radical, but because of my own life experience I firmly believe that Socialism is just a stones throw away from Communism. My father used to say that Communist are like termites, they chip away unnoticed until it’s to late. It should come as no surprise that there are curtain elements of our society (Socialist) who believe that the U.S. Constitution is outdated and their ultimate goal is to re-write it. I can only imagine what the new one would be like; “Bill of rights” what is that??

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. Todd Reich January 25, 2013 at 8:54 am

I personally have contacted all who represent the state of Florida, those in my district, and even our president himself, regarding this matter. I already have responses from all, with exception of President Obama, himself. It appears that the American people are asleep at the wheel on this topic. I was told that action had to be taken due to all negative responses they received, by mainly the young liberal generation that have no regard for what this country is supposed to stand for. Not complete unharnessed Government control. We the people are supposed to have a say in what happens in every aspect of all laws they come up with. We dont. It appears to me, that this land is in serious trouble. We are being over ruled by a form of what appears to be like communism. What about banning violent video games for our youth? They seem to have lost good morals, and tend to have their judgement impaired by wanting only to protect their liberal rights, which they will lose completley, regardless of what they think. America has been sleeping too long. I don’t feel we all should have to be subject to this, due to some parent who allowed access to her gind by her unstable son. It was her responsibility to keep her weapons locked up, safely away from any child’s access. There is a safety act which she did not follow. So now, we all get penalized? It’s more like a conspiracy. All we can do is try to get everyone to speak up. We are losing more rights/ freedom each year. WAKE UP AMERICA! “Rock the boat”…. Take a stand for our constitutional rights. Freedom IS NOT FREE….

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. steve H January 25, 2013 at 8:57 am

We can also talk to people whom we come in contact with everyday and try and educate them, the grass roots movements have just as much power when they have public opinion behind them. Contact the reps in the congress and badger them, don’t let up, let them no comprise will not be tolerated, send them copies of the stats from the fbi and others.. Guns may kill about 3-7K victims a yr. but killers will use other means from hammers to gasoline. Drunk drivers kill and paralyze tens of thousands and doctors kill 250,000-300,0000 a yr. In the numbers most murders are committed by inner city youth from 16-28. A person bent on killing is going to use any means available because they are a killer. Gun control in Amerika will lead to Control of the people and as a slave already can we afford more runaway govt.?

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. Rick January 25, 2013 at 9:05 am

Hello? Bueller? No amount of emails, letters, or phone calls will change the upcoming course of events. This agenda has been bubbling for a while and your “elected” officials do not care for your opinion.

Second, you right to defend your life, liberty, and property comes from your humanity and is inherent. No piece of paper grants you said rights. No man can give you a right, they can only take them away.

Third, Hitler did not ban guns, they had been banned since 1928. Hitler eased restrictions on the people he liked, not on the “inferior” classes. Lenin recognized the threat of an armed public as well and attempted to disarm his people.

Four, when they outlaw firearms, which is coming regardless of what the statist NRA does (Gun Owners of America is a much better group), your responsibility is non-compliance if you believe you have a right to defend your life, liberty and property. Tyranny is the end state of all forms of government, and we are rapidly approaching this state.

The shepherd does not care for the sheep for their benefit, but for his own.

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. Lawrence January 25, 2013 at 9:08 am

Screw that I am writing and do not listen to NRA, I react to what I read and see. Written several times and got little response back.

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. Alan Gregoriac January 25, 2013 at 9:09 am

Cold Dead Hands

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. rob January 25, 2013 at 9:12 am

“The Holocaust was 60 years ago, not 600 years ago YOU TOUCHSCREEN ADDICTED IDIOTS.”

Hey, knock off the name calling or nobody is going to take you seriously!

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. Administrator January 25, 2013 at 9:39 am

fidiot

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. Mike January 25, 2013 at 9:14 am

What we all really need to realize is that this is going to be a long fight designed to wear down the average gun owner. Obama is a community organizer, and he knows he will loose this fight this year. But he will organize a systematic and carefully crafted assault over the next two years against all of the members of congress and the senate who oppose his gun control agenda. He will attempt to fill the seat in congress with people sympathetic to his cause. These people will OWE him their seat and will follow him like he is the Pied Piper. He won’t need a super majority just enough to fill the airwaves of his willing accomplices in the media to bombard the rest of America that it is only a small majority of gun owners are being unreasonable. And the casual gun owner who owns one or two guns for self defense will not see the hidden agenda and agree with him and he will get his way! This Universal background check IS a backdoor registration scheme. The Federal Government has NO Constitutional power to regulate the private sale of ANY private property! Because unless you sell something to some one in another state it does not fall under interstate commerce which is a power granted to the federal government. We must stop this universal background check scheme! Bad Guys steal their guns, they do not buy them from you and me! WAKE UP!

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. Robert January 25, 2013 at 9:17 am

This is a response I recieved from my senator in Pennsylvania:

Thank you for taking the time to contact me about the tragic shooting in Newtown, Connecticut. I appreciate hearing from you about this issue.

As you know, on December 14, 2012, an individual in Newtown, Connecticut forced his way into Sandy Hook Elementary School and opened fire on teachers and staff in the building. In total, the perpetrator murdered 20 students between the ages of six and seven years old, as well as six adults, many of whom heroically sought to stop the shooter and save the lives of children. Like many Americans, I was deeply affected by the scope and brutality of this act. My thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families.

The motives that led to this senseless massacre will likely never fully be comprehended. However, I believe that all public officials have a responsibility to work to prevent such an event from occurring again. This incident reflects a complex problem that requires a comprehensive strategy, including funding for law enforcement officers and the mental health care system. Too many individuals with mental illness are not receiving the services they need and tragically, sometimes a small number of these individuals turn violent. I have supported access to affordable and accessible mental health services for all Americans and I will continue to review proposed solutions to improve our mental health system.

As you may know, I am a strong supporter of the Second Amendment. Pennsylvania has a fine hunting and sporting tradition, and I will defend the right to bear arms as it is enshrined in our Constitution. However, I also believe that the attack at Sandy Hook Elementary School highlights very serious dangers posed to public safety by the misuse of certain weapons and technology originally developed for warfare. According to reports, the shooter was able to kill many children and adults very quickly because he possessed a military-style semiautomatic weapon. He also allegedly used magazines containing up to 30 rounds of ammunition and carried hundreds of rounds more. After much reflection and careful study of the issue, I have decided to support a federal assault weapons ban as well as legislation restricting high capacity clips. In light of what occurred at Sandy Hook, these are two measures that will lessen the chances that this will happen again soon.

Our Nation has already begun a critical dialogue as we examine what steps must be taken to prevent this type of tragedy in the future. On December 19, 2012, President Obama announced the formation of an inter-agency task initiative, led by Vice President Biden, to study these issues and recommend possible actions. I look forward to reviewing these proposals, as well to working with my colleagues on both sides of the aisle to address this complex issue.

Again, thank you for sharing your thoughts with me. Please do not hesitate to contact me in the future about this or any other matter of importance to you.

For more information on this or other issues, I encourage you to visit my website, http://casey.senate.gov. I hope you will find this online office a comprehensive resource to stay up-to-date on my work in Washington, request assistance from my office or share with me your thoughts on the issues that matter most to you and to Pennsylvania.

Sincerely,
Bob Casey
United States Senator

P.S. If you would like to respond to this message, please use the contact form on my website: http://casey.senate.gov/contact/

Unfortunately, this senator does not support our 2nd amendment right.

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. William January 25, 2013 at 9:22 am

This is for all IPad generation, after they take our guns, they are going to take your iPads and then tell you when u can use them. Wake up America, they want to be able to tell u when, where, why and how to do something. You read about horrifying happenings, if you let this happen, your going to live it.. Arm yourself now and say NO to any kinds of gun bans…….

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. Ralph January 25, 2013 at 9:24 am

It can not be any easier than to go over to http://www.ruger.com/micros/advocacy/
and fill in the info. Thank You Ruger !

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. Alan Robinson January 25, 2013 at 9:31 am

More NRA bashing and “I’m better than you because I contacted my Reps” garbage.
You, our editorializing ‘keeper’, have crossed the line.
I guess your not smart enough to realize that one catches more flies with sugar than salt.
You could have done much better than this.
Vent your frustrations in a manner befitting your position.
Knowledge without temperance is the position of our foes, don’t act as they do with namecalling, the earmark of childishness.
You may know history, but your ignorant of politics, and diplomacy.

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. jq2intx January 25, 2013 at 9:34 am

I have written both Senators and my Democratic Representative in the House. I know my Senators will work against this madness but I wrote them anyway to let them know that I want them to do so. Here is my email:
“It is my belief that these gun control laws will not stop criminals from getting and using guns. What it will do is disarm law abiding citizens who have broken no laws, done no harm to anyone, and, are being punished for being law abiding citizens.

It is my hope that you will find a way to stop this madness in the Senate (House). Historically, gun control measures have done little to stop crime. I read a road sign while driving in San Antonio, The sign said that there had been 3800 fatalities in auto accidents in 2012 on Texas highways. Yet we don’t ban automobiles, we ask people to drive safely.

Thank you for your work to protect and defend our Constitution.

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. Frank January 25, 2013 at 9:34 am

I sent an email to everyone from the VPOTUS to my local representative, yesterday. What everyone seems to forget is that the 2nd Amendment is part of the Bill of Rights, part of the Constitution. This document was written as an absolute; it can not be changed or modified from it’s original form. Our founding fathers did this because they knew all too well that tyranny can raise it’s ugly head at any time.

The only way that the government can justify their actions is for everyone — including government representatives — to give up their weapons. This is something that they will, of course, write into legislation that they can retain their guns. In my opinion, this justifies all members of Legislative, Executive and Judicial branches to be brought up on charges of treason as it goes against their oaths of office to “Preserve, Protect and Defend the Constitution of the United States from all enemies, foreign and domestic.”

Let’s face it; all Obama is trying to do is force into compliance with the UN directive for all people to be unarmed. What better way to become a servant than a citizen? There were no AR-15′s used at Sandy Hook. We know that, now. So why keep going after “Assault Rifles”? It would be prudent that the government know what the definition of an “Assault Weapon” really is as they were banned in 1934 . . . and unless you have a FFL Class 3 license, you don’t have one.

This is all about control, and nothing more. If the POTUS was that interested in “Saving Children” he should rescind the law that allows late term abortion. The government — under the guise of Planned Parenthhod has murdered over 1,000,000 children before they had a chance to become a citizen, yet there is no outrage.

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. Allen Muma January 25, 2013 at 9:36 am

Send your letters and emails!!!! I have sent emails and/or letters to ALL my representatives, both at the federal level as well as the state, to include all Chairs to standing committees dealing with crime. You need to be heard on this, and it will be close. We need EVERYBODY to defend our rights. Send those letters now! If you don’t do your part, don’t bitch when bad things happen.

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. G D Gamblin January 25, 2013 at 9:37 am

I promptly tried to call my 2 Texas senators. One said “mail box is full” R something equivalent. 2nd call was told switchboard closed R something equal. I suspect few if any emails or call ever reach anyone interested. I am sick of the whole damn outfit. Most need hanging and the remainder sent to hard labor. They are useless. I say they depend on able secretaries who could do their job just fine.
Inaugration day was the sickest thing in my 82yr. memory. What price has been paid for the lilly livered bastards to have this beautiful country to live.

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. Mark Grigg January 25, 2013 at 9:41 am

I agree that our government has no right to change or take ANY of our rights. Look at the statements of our founding fathers, and you will see that the 2nd amendment was put into place for us to protect ourselves from all threats, foreign and domestic, and by the way, I have and will contact everyone I can in our government to let them know where I stand on this issue. That being said, I swear if you slam the people you claim to be one of again, I will delete this website and everything about gunsamerica from, yes my iPad, and will still be a gun owner, a protector of the constitution, and a proud American. Yes, encourage people to get off their butts and be heard, but to cowards, stupid, or a host of other name calling that I have seen lately, is juvenile and shows a lack of thought on your part, equal to what the government is showing. The people reading these messages are generally of the same intent as you, and should be reminded of how to be heard by government, not slapped for not doing things your way. If you really believe we are stupid, and need to be controlled, maybe you should run for the whitehouse. You’d fit right in.

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. Roofing Contractors Pearland January 25, 2013 at 9:44 am

It’s hurts to see what WE THE PEOPLE have let our government due to us. Sure it’s easy to sit around and blame everyone else but who’s really to blame???? It’s us folks. We need to take it back.

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. D. January 25, 2013 at 9:51 am

Check your facts: Germany was completely disarmed by the treaty ending WW1 and gun freedoms were mostly restored by the gun laws of 1938 EXCEPT for Jews and other suspect groups. The gun law promulgated on November 11, 1938 applied only in (recently conquered) Austria and Sudetenland.

BTW, I don’t like the tone of your rant. Get a grip.

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. Administrator January 25, 2013 at 10:14 am

It is sniveling traitors like you who sold out their own people in 1938, and the same thing is happening now to Constitutional American’s now. This isn’t about rounding up Jews, yet. It is about calling freedom loving Americans potential terrorists, which has been going on for a long time. “Mental health” will soon become lockstep with government values, and traitors like you will cheer it along because you think you area patriot, while freedom crumbles.

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. Domingo Tavella January 25, 2013 at 10:33 am

Dear Moderator,

Your use of language is offensive and unbecoming of a “moderator”. Nobody here is a traitor, and mental health is a national crisis that needs to be addressed. Please refrain from calling people names, it is childish and totally inappropriate.

Domingo Tavella

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. Administrator January 25, 2013 at 11:03 am

According to the DSM5 we are all nuts, and maybe it is time to get a little offensive.

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. Ed Hansen January 25, 2013 at 9:52 am

“Hunters are historically traitors to the 2nd Amendment.” Your ignorance confounds me. I’ve never meet a western hunter that didn’t support the 2nd Amendment. Obvivously you have never been to Idaho. If ya got a bone to pick with hunter do it, but this is too important of an issue to use divsive statements to alieninate a substantial number of gun owners. Divide and conquer from within, really!

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. Administrator January 25, 2013 at 10:11 am

You are ignorant to the history of the 2nd Amendment, and you apparently don’t listen very well either. Who do you think Obama is talking about when he says that “a lot of NRA members support” his anti-gun agenda? Do you think it’s the guy at your club shooting his AR with his kids every other weekend? He is talking about one gun hunters.

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. jq2intx January 25, 2013 at 10:03 am

Now that I have written to my Senators and Representatives, I want you to understand something about your rhetoric. I am a member of a militia unit, I am a conservative, and I use an Android Tablet, just like so many others in this nation. We are not idiots, we are law abiding citizens of this nation. Many of my friends want me to join GOA and I have thought about. This kind of rhetoric says NO WAY! I am a member of NRA, but the rhetoric there is getting to be the same thing. Calm down folks, don’t insult the people you want to reach, don’t make us out to be stupid because we use the tools that available to us. I was born in 1945, I served in the Armed Forces of our nation for a total of 12 years, my brother is a 100% disabled vet from Agent Orange. So stick the rhetoric about being idiots, and stick to the truth about what is being done to our Constitution. We are not fools or idiots, we are Americans.

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. Greg January 25, 2013 at 10:04 am

Many middle class gun owners voted for the Great Divider and are now shocked at his true agenda. We told you so. He gives powerful guns to Islamists and ignors the constitution by making honest citizens guns criminal instead of enforcing the gun laws we already have.

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. Bobby January 25, 2013 at 10:04 am

Lots of good points but a little to the extrem. It is not about the act of guns it is about the 2nd Admendment. The constitution which was drafted to protect our Country from what history had proven has happened time and time again, Government control. That is why we need to have the wright to bear arms to protect personel freedom from government control. Yes people are cattle we can only hope there is enough backing to support the 2nd Admendment. I am a hunter, a CCW carry, and have contacted my state reps over and over on this subject. So people even if you are against guns, that is your wright, the constitution is what gives you your wrights. You let them take one away from you more will follow. WAKE UP.

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. Mark Schmitt January 25, 2013 at 10:12 am

They’re only gonna let us have muskets because that’s what the founders meant when they said “arms”.
So… You can say what ever you want as long as it is only heard by people within ear shot of your voice or in print if you handwrite it or use an 18th century printing press.
How did we allow them to take it this far?
Why do we allow them to call our rifles and guns “assault weapons”?
‘Cause it sounds cool?
“Look at this! This is my assault weapon! Looks bad-ass,right?”
“Yup. You could shoot up lots of folks with that!”
Who wouldn’t want to ban an assault weapon?
Is a baseball bat an assault weapon?
In the hands of a major league hitter, it’s sports equipment.
A table leg in the hands of a mugger is an “assault weapon”.
An assault weapon is as an assault weapon does.
My AR-15? I like to shoot it recreationally with whatever capacity magazine I choose.
I think of it more like sporting equipment.
How about we ban people from calling my rifle and ones like it an assault weapon?
Where will it stop?
Maybe one day our table legs will be made of foam-rubber.

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. Randall January 25, 2013 at 10:16 am

Enough of the name calling we ALL need to stand together as gun owners. If you are a hunter and do not think other law abiding gun owners should own one that is fine. But please keep it to yourself.

Remember and attack on one gun owners choise of weapon to have is an attack on all.

If they start with the so called assault rifle and magazines then someone committs a crime using a pump shot gun they will try to ban that then if they use a ddbl barrel they will try and ban that.Then a single shot and so on till no guns are to be owned.

And forget about handguns they are next right after these so called assault rifles.

A bolt action rifle with a scope on it will be called a sniper rifle …you can’t own that.

Once they start they will not stop this time!!!!

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. Ernroe January 25, 2013 at 10:23 am

I am old hunter and an old Ipad user but I don’t consider myself an old fool. Your approach to our common problem is flawed in my opinion by alienating certain groups such as Old Hunters and Ipad users. It is a foolish approach on your part. As stated before I am an old hunter and old Ipad user and proud of it. I am also an old IDPA competitor, an old Skeet competitor, an old Trap competitor, an old GunsAmerica user, and an old 2nd Amend. supporter. Born in 1946 makes me part of the older generation in this battle and just a reminder that all Ipad users were not born post 1990. So, if you are serious about leading this monumental effort we are undertaking don’t divide and alienate your troops. You would be a fool to do.

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. Administrator January 25, 2013 at 10:28 am

Then you should know that hunters have historically been traitors. President Obama said in his speech that his agenda was supported by a lot of “NRA members.” Now who do you think he was talking about? You also probably live in flyover country, where some normal people actually do own Ipads. But overwhelmingly the erudite eggheads of the Ipad generation have no clue what our government, and any government drunk on its own power is capable of.

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. R Ross January 25, 2013 at 10:27 am

Some don’t contact their legislators because they have some history of repeatedly ignored letters and then reply with a form letter that states they are right and you are wrong. I live in an area with only one Republican in the Senate and he does hear from me often. But our other representatives are Democrats and it’s a total waste of time to try and change their minds. I’ve tried. They follow the O’s lead and mantra to the letter and then dress it in a way to make the public feel it’s for our own good they do these things. BS! Make no mistake once they disarm us, America is done for. This is an outright attack on a basic right. Our founding fathers knew this could happen and put it “second” in the constitution, not at the end, because of its importance to an America free from Government tyranny.

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. Rev. Jeff January 25, 2013 at 10:32 am

I know that everyone thinks that they are right. That everyone is far right conservative. That the more noise you make the better your are liked or read. But the truth is that the conservatives lied to the American people about their own party. We just followed what they said. They got richer and WE lost. We the People will no longer list to the wacko rants of people who only have opinion without any intelligent consideration. In this age of instant communications. People can learn more about an issue in less time than in anytime in history. You and your opinion are lost to the people who won’t be fooled again by the rant of some conservative wacko.

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. Reality Check January 25, 2013 at 10:33 am

Everybody is missing the not so hidden agenda.. Linking Obamacare to the so called new gun ban bill..
Read the point about doctors reporting!! The mandated system we have now is EMR.. directly linked to the government now. If the gun bill goes as planned every patient record ( including the currently closed mental health records) will be entered into the UCIS(Uniform Crime Information System). If you smoke, drink, take prescription or illegal narcotics or have a mental health issue the Justice Department and the FBI will have that record to use against you!! That’s the plan and they are waving guns to get it through!

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. Passionate January 25, 2013 at 10:36 am

One thing the remarks has shown is that this is absolutely a passionate emotion that people feel about gun control. This country and our fore fathers had the sense to craft a document called the constitution to gaurentee our freedoms. It does not matter which side of the fence you fall on be it republican or democrat, you can’t give up any of our contitutional freedoms. Taking a little bit now means to me that the government in power now thinks they can get a little more later. Taking baby steps is how it always starts. Look at England and it’s history! I am a vet as well and served proudly. I think that we “all” need to take control or our government and tell the elected officials what we the american people whom they serve want. If your for gun control so be it. But, it your against it don’t be silent. I think that is what the message is that the original article is really all about. While your contacting your elected officials, tell them you would like for this government to be responsible with our tax dollars and to balance our budget much like I have to with “my” checkbook.

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. Kevin January 25, 2013 at 10:38 am

Rant or no rant.. search up the new laws enacted in New York state and tell me the politicians only want to ban “Assault Weapons” or “High Capacity magazines”. Now in New York state you have to do a background check $10-$20 every time you purchase ammo and they set up a database to track when, what and how much you buy.
There is no grandfather clause on banned items.
Once Washington gets those approved and some other nutjob kills people with a 9mm pistol with multiple 10 round magazines they will go after ALL magazine fed weapons. BTW Biden wants to limit magazines to 10 round capacity, yet many pistols come with 13, 15, 17 and more magazines stock.
Do I think the rich should be driving cars that can exceed 200 mph and suck 2 gallons to the mile? Not really but they are legal and they can afford them so leave it be. The speed limit is there.
Do I think we need an AK with 30 round mags? Not really.. but it is their legal right to have them and it should be left at that.
Let some nutjob corner folks in a “GUN FREE” zone it will not matter the magazine capacity, it will still be a slaughter.

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. Marcus January 25, 2013 at 10:38 am

lol…the administrator has gone full retard this time. I guarantee you this guy sits around watching Alex Jones and reading deep web news sources all day.

Great way to fire up your email list – call people idiots and alienate the ones who don’t see eye to eye with all the political views of yourself.

Oh, and by the way, I have sent numerous emails to all my reps about this issue. I even did it from my Galaxy S3 one time!

Keep melting, administrator.

-Marcus

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. Administrator January 25, 2013 at 10:47 am

No Markus we really want you to wake up or go away. There are plenty of internet gun profiteers for you to buy your guns from Marcus, including most of our competitors. It is time to draw the line between people who support racist gun control policies and freedom loving Americans who refuse to drink the government Koolaid.

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. Keith January 25, 2013 at 10:39 am

I really agree with your point about Fox, etc. “spinning” the pre-election thinking to complacency by convincing prospective conservatives that Romney was a “win”. And I agree they are trying to do the same thing now with this “assault weapons” ban. It’s like they think if they say “we” are behind, they are conceding defeat… they would not be! It would be a much stronger call to arms if they erred on the side of saying we might get defeated, because that would push people to *act*!

I also agree that the anti-gunners are working feverishly behind the scenes (and with public opinion polls) to get this through… and the public… even gun owners and NRA members, it seems, appear to be buying into these bans!

The NRA is doing a horrible job in this debate… the only argument one ever hears from them is “2nd amendment, 2nd amendment”. The anti-gunners, and naive populace don’t care about the 2nd amendment! What the NRA needs to do is create *intelligent* (non rant) commercials and interviews where they explain that an AR-15 is no different than any other rifle, that the bullets it shoots aren’t “military devastating” bullets, and that removing, e.g., “pistol grip”s from rifles is not going to save lives. They need to explain why a madman with 5 10 round magazines will kill just as much as a madman with 2 30 round magazines. They need to explain that one can shoot a revolved just about as fast as a semi-automatic! The American public needs to understand these things, and there is no one out there (especially the media) explaining it to them. This whole ban is about *cosmetic firearms appearance*, but no one is talking about that. I am about to drop my NRA membership… they are lame.

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. TexasVet January 25, 2013 at 10:48 am

I’ve contacted my reps and more. I’ve contacted other state reps as well. We can not be quiet any more. You must voice your opinions now.

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. Darren January 25, 2013 at 10:48 am

I contacted both my Senators and my Congress person regarding this “gun” issue. Best part is I told the truth. Gun bans do two things.
1. They offer up huge gun sales numbers so people can create a “black” market of guns when a ban does happen and make a ton of money. By the way, these people are not left or right sided, at this point all they see is dollars.
2. The gun ban destroys a supporting politician’s chance for re-election.

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. Cliff January 25, 2013 at 10:52 am

As a Veteran, one who served in Vietnam, I have to come to the defense of the one who writes this blog. Those of you, Liberal or not, who believe the problem is law abiding citizens access to so called high capacity magazines, pistol grips on rifles, flash suppressor, sound suppressors, etc. are the problem are just plain ignoring the facts.

Facts.

1 – If you have the money and can pass the background checks you can own just about any weapon you wish.

2 – If you have the money you can hire as many guards for your children and personal protection carrying any manner of weapon (see fact 1 above) you wish.

3 – All weapons, no matter the size of their magazines or the length and weight of their blade, bludgeon or other force multiplying feature are lethal.

4 – Larger human beings have been committing lethal acts on smaller statured human beings since the dawn of man. That’s what drove the invention of bigger, better, faster weapons – self defense.

5 – The amount of bullets in a gun’s magazine that I require are as many as it takes to stop someone intent on doing harm to me or my family.

6 – Taking away my right to choose my means of self-defense does nothing to stop criminals or the insane from committing heinous crimes. It only puts my family and me at greater risk of becoming a victim.

I could go on – but liberals don’t care what the facts are and President Obama is the greatest example of that.

Case in point is this quote from a congressman’s letter to his constituent.

“According to reports, the shooter was able to kill many children and adults very quickly because he possessed a military-style semiautomatic weapon. He also allegedly used magazines containing up to 30 rounds of ammunition and carried hundreds of rounds more.”

Turns out he did not use an AR-15, he had 4 handguns in the school with him. We still don’t know if he used them all. He probably just shot and reloaded as many times as he wanted until he killed himself. After the principle and her staff tried to stand up to the single bullet that killed them, there were only un-defended children left to stop him.

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. Art Gordon January 25, 2013 at 10:54 am

Yes, there are Democrats that believe that they have the Constitutional right to bear arms. But don’t forget that the stregnth of the Democratic Party is that they will vote against their own beliefs and follow the party line. Gun bans don’t affect the politicians, they are not affected by the laws they impose upon us. It’s all about controlling the masses. SOCIALISM.

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. RJR9681 January 25, 2013 at 11:04 am

As I read this article and several of the comments t became very clear to me that there are varing view points about not only Obama but also about gun owners themselves. First I would like to say that the remarks about the NRA really lit my fuse. I have been a member of the NRA for nearly 40 years. If it weren’t for the NRA our 2nd Ammendent rights would have been gone long ago. When gun owners start to attack each other it makes it quite easy to beat ourselves. all the left has to do is stand by and watch and let us destroy ourselves. So all of you that are taking aim at the NRA should maybe apply more of your efforts toward the real enemy. Just because it took them a few days to respond to the CT shooting all of a sudden they are now the bad guys. I called them myself to get an answer and they replyed they were waiting for more of the facts to come out and also giving the griving famlies a chance to “grive” dah. I also take offence about the coment of hunters being an enemy of the 2nd Ammendent. Well guess what dude. I am an Air Force vet have had guns since I was 5, hunted as soon as I was able to hold a gun and I HAVE CONTACTED MY “REPRESENTIVES” SEVERAL TIMES. So in your future rants, PLEASE, keep your dislike of the NRA to yourself mister writer. Do yourself and the rest of us a favor and point your ranting fingers toward the enemy, not Hunters and the NRA.

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. another combat vet January 25, 2013 at 11:10 am

“Wake up America”
Just a few points:
Do call/e-mail/wright your government reps. I certainly have became a pest.
Do make sure they know where you stand on gun rights
Don’t call others idiots, unless you want them as enemies
Think about what is happening: The gun manufacturers, ammunitions suppliers, gun shops and on line sales are making millions of $$$$$s form this issue. The NRS is getting a huge surge in membership $s. Some gun owners are selling their guns for 3 or 4 times what they paid for them 6 months ago. Obama is probably making a killing from it also. Dianne Feinstein looks like she may actually be a zombie and may be the only one not making money form this. Zombies just don’t like guns!!
Buy guns and ammo reasonably. When this dies down you are going to feel like such a fool for paying $3,000 for a $700 gun, and over a $1 for a .30 cent round.
I am not trying to down play the importance of this issue. I spent two years in Vietnam because I believe in the Constitution. I don’t have an i-pad but would if I could afford one.

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. Rick from OBWNON.NET January 25, 2013 at 11:15 am

I’m sure that there are many Democrats who own guns, believe in the
2nd amendment and the Constitution of the United States. However, do these Democrats value their rights deeply enough to stand up to the sometimes fanatical ultra socialist leadership who at times sound like they are south of the old USSR? We (Democrats, Republicans and Libertarians) should be aware that those who want to destroy the 2nd Amendment, will also destroy the First Amendment (and others) at their pleasure to suit their political desires. As an experienced political scientist I concede that both Republicans and Democrats need to be more aware of the needs and opinions of the majority in the middle, rather that to dedicate themselves to the needs of the very rich or very poor. This is why Romney lost and why Obama and Biden are still hated by so many people. They are all FUZZY THINKERS and always seem to take the wrong road to solve problems. Obama has a history of responding to a crisis with insane devisive solutions. Yes, the world has changed, yes violence is worshipped by Hollywood (Django) and violent video games for young children and yes, young people with bi-polar and asbergers autism are virtually ignored and swept aside until they make the news with a mass murder. The answer is not bans and punishment of law abiding gun owners. The answer is tighter mental health checks when young people apply for drivers licenses (no d-license, no guns), perhaps a tax credit for those who buy gun safes. These are proactive steps but what Obama is proposing is negative and divides the country even more. There are many lawful gunowners who will fight to the death if Obamas stormtroopers (military and police) try to enforce these bad laws and many more innocent people will die as a result. If this happens, Obama, Feinstein, Biden etc. will have blood on their hands.

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. Phillip January 25, 2013 at 8:29 am

See my comment above

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. John G January 25, 2013 at 9:02 am

How about enforcing the laws that already exist instead of ruining our 2nd Amendment rights?

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. Dan January 25, 2013 at 9:43 am

Kieth you must be so proud of your great king that you voted for! When you are done watching CNN (communist news network) at night you must get on your knees and worship him right! I mean he has done everything you wanted! Given you your free stuff, raised taxes on all Americans and supported our enemies. Fools like you will be booted out of this country when we stupid gun lovers take our America back!

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. MadMaxx January 25, 2013 at 9:50 am

I agree! A HUGE proposal and not very difficult to understand…and yet it happens. Many of those violations are due to loopholes in existing laws

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. Kevin January 25, 2013 at 10:39 am

Biden has already said law enforcement cannot enforce the laws already on the books…. but lets make more

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. Chris Foltz January 25, 2013 at 10:11 am

Moderation ??? Moderates are what got us into this mess in the first place!!!

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Administrator January 25, 2013 at 10:18 am

Amen brother.


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